Ideas Topic

Sunny_D wrote:
you would need two JASS-systems (and thats actually what i meant with 'codes' in my previous post) - one that reads the old code from 5.2 that gives 10% of the exp and the new 5.3 code that gives normal exp, wont you? of course, just one visible code that you are given after saving, but thats not what i meant...

Opps, misunderstood Well, wouldn't be much of a ruckus, too. Since one code is already there and the other code has to be written in any case ^^ A slight modification and it would be done.

Sunny_D wrote:
simplies IMO would be to add conditions that check "not equal to Unit-Type = Dummy"...

Aye, that's simpliest, but since I'm using several dummies I'm always searching for something I can use to minimize used conditions^^

it wont make much - i doubt it would make any - difference if you have 1, 10 or 20 conditions in your trigger. it depends mostly how much function calls you have in a trigger...

True, it isn't much. Guess I'm overreacting ^^.

I vote for #1 too, but without providing any new codes to veterans.

Maybe an idea for the operative abilities :
- passive : fast reload : each level decrease time of reload (maybe someone already propose it, i dontknow, dont want to read all )
- Smoke grenade : each level increase area. Make creeps confused in the area (like they were bugged), or something other you can find ^^

its all, just some idea, we never know, maybe it will inspire you for some great things

Hell_f1re wrote:maybe someone already propose it, i dontknow, dont want to read all )

Lol, no, you're actually the second guy who passes me some ideas at all o.0 ~~

what skills the TO has already and what weapon he uses? maybe i can give you some ideas then...

Uhm..
Nitrogen Bullets
Critical Strike
Evasion
Shotgun
Advanced Trigger Group (was: advanced clip)


Skills sound familar, huh^^

I really can't think of any good skills.. I'm drained.

s3rius can u make there are got diff gunz casue they almost are same O.o

can you please add a new weapon flamethrower?

Sorry, but adding a flamethrower means adding a firebat class. I don't think it's possible to make an unordinary firebat with good skills, etc. Maybe, maybe, when I'm done with most other changes.

I'll think how to make the current weapons more different.

ok thx and the pvp mode when u ran out amno u cant get it back u just stay there and let the people kill u that so... can u fix it ?

Idea of the day: Lets play some. I enter B.net now.

->>Lisianthus <-- is that your account name for wc3?



i would suggest that we could pick up a chemical gun or something which has a good splash damage and deadly to some zombies.

yeah good idea, maybe a splash abilitie for operative

Maybe, maybe, splash for operative, but there's no need for another pick-up-and-pwn-zombies gun.

In this case I could also create an item that let's you win instantly.. ^^"

maybe can you give invulnerability for operative (as 5 sec at last lvl).
will increase his hand to hand power

newlooy wrote:->>Lisianthus <-- is that your account name for wc3?

Yes it is.

i am on west are you on west? anyways my friend xsomeboyx added you too.


i don't really get the point of this new version. surely, there are more new stuff but the game play is still the same. it is impossible to beat some of the levels without using glitch or using the low HP luring. the nuke is just plain pointless and forces players to use glitches. plain defending is also kind of boring after a while. i suggrst this game should copy some of the quest in RZO2: the onslaughtening. it gives players a chance to run around to complete the quests;instead of just stand there for the whole game and spend countless time running around finding resources.

also, i suggest you not to include an anti-map hacking. the reason is the game is already hard as it is and the game play is just too plain and resources are very hard to find. sometimes after spending like 10 or 15 minutes just running around the map finding stuff, we get killed right after the next wave started. that was a huge time wasting. i know some people might say thats what a scout is for!!!! but you don't get experienced players every game. you don't really get a someone picking a scout every game and what if the scout is a noob and he died? furthurmore, scout can not even find piercing ammos and plenty other supplies with his skills.


my friend is currently 50 + and he already got bored of this game because all you do is standing there glitching or wait to be killed in 2 or 3 waves. then spend a lot of time finding stuff. not to insult you ! but i think there are much to be added and changed. sorry if i have offended you in anyways or my suggests are just plain stupid.

Mh, for me the game become to easy if there is per example no more nuke.
This game must be hard : then, you want to become stronger (lvl up) and maybe one day, you have a good team with only high lvl, that can be really good.
For this game, you have to be patient ^^

Only newbs uses the glitch. And yes, it is supposed to be hard. And who says you have to camp at one place?

I do agree that it can be quite boring at times, which is pretty much why I don't really play anymore.

Well, I actually wanted to preserve the gameplay in 5.3, because it's, imo, quite nice and 'old school'.
DotD is by far not flawless, but some of those things are just the way it was supposed to be.

However, Lisianthus offered me to give me a modification of a terrain he once created together with Sunny. If it's appropiate and I have enough time I'm planning on creating a '2nd DotD', which doesn't support camping anymore and contains missions.

Whether I'm really going to do this .. well, we'll see.

continues to newlooy's topic....


wow are you guys serious? try hosting a game and you get full house of noobs and try that for the whole day ! by that time look at the mirror and see if you are pissed or not.

try hosting a game and you get full house of noobs and try that for the whole day !

just want to mention the 5.3 map from s3rius is not even finished yet. its beta-phase currently. i would wonder if there were already that much "pros" out there...

newlooy wrote:also, i suggest you not to include an anti-map hacking. the reason is the game is already hard as it is and the game play is just too plain and resources are very hard to find. sometimes after spending like 10 or 15 minutes just running around the map finding stuff, we get killed right after the next wave started. that was a huge time wasting. i know some people might say thats what a scout is for!!!! but you don't get experienced players every game. you don't really get a someone picking a scout every game and what if the scout is a noob and he died? furthurmore, scout can not even find piercing ammos and plenty other supplies with his skills.

I don't support maphacking in any way, and I hate it when I play a game and ther are people hacking, no matter if it harms me or helps me.

The game is too hard. Ok, that's an arguement. I can make it easier, that's the solution.
5.3 is in beta state and by far not balanced, but that's no justification to use hacks.

someboy wrote:
wow are you guys serious? try hosting a game
and you get full house of noobs and try that for the whole day ! by
that time look at the mirror and see if you are pissed or not.

Besides that I don't know any game where you don't have to cope with noobs all the time, what to do about it >.<
I know that the nuke or the uber strenght of fatty is often a surprise/death for noobs.
[sarcasm]And even the small fact that they aren't half-invincible super marine on killing spree, but rather weak and unable to run through 200+ zombies without dying, is often causing them headaches[/sarcasm]
But I cant just remove nukes, let the boss become a wimpy fat boy and drop the zombies damage to 2-3.
I'm thinking about giving a revive skill to the medic, to revive a fallen marine (maybe only low lvls), so, if you have a medic, you can at least give the newbs a 2nd chance.
I'll also lower the difficulty a bit more for low lvl teams.

Any suggestions to make the game more newb friendly are welcome.

Sunny_D wrote:
just
want to mention the 5.3 map from s3rius is not even finished yet. its
beta-phase currently. i would wonder if there were already that much
"pros" out there...

Yea, but the game mechanics are pretty much the same. A pro from 5.2 will probably find himself a pro in 5.3, too. It'll just take some games to cope with the new skills, difficulty, zombies and so on.

well it doesnt really matter if 5.3 is in beta state because the codes from 5.2 still works on 5.3.

well if you insist i respect your decision;however, the nuke is just plain pointless..
i think you could make the bosses stronger but please remove the nuke.