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Sun 04 Apr 2010, 01:32
Mmmmmm...What can I say other than tasty?
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Sun 04 Apr 2010, 08:29
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i get this mail few days ago..is that mean i can play beta version for free if i dl it ??

edit: dl 23% ...
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Sun 04 Apr 2010, 09:51
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hehe a second lucky dude
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Sun 04 Apr 2010, 18:09
the anticipation is mounting!
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Mon 05 Apr 2010, 00:56
Shocked DAMNIT >< I still want mah key
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Wed 07 Apr 2010, 16:57
Ok s3r but who uses mass vultures vs zerg? thats suicide lol they run into lurks and cry as they explode and then comes the swarms and oh god the T has nightmares for years lol however going Mech vs Z isn't unheard of but that many lings with speed wont lose to 8 vultures Sad Anyway I see where your going but it is still Starcraft. If they butcher the melee aspect of the game by screwing it up like they did WC3 TFT then it's still a step backwards for their abilities to make anything as good as the original. But hey I'm still crossing my fingers Smile
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Wed 07 Apr 2010, 17:35
True, no one clear in mind would mass Vultures vs Zerg.
But honestly Stalkers would be just as bad - they're rather slow and would be surrounded by speed lings very quickly, since blink can only help you out every 12(?) seconds^^
The real deal vs Zerg would be Sentries, High Templar and a healthy mix of Immortals, Stalkers and Zealots.

And Terrans new Vultures (the Hellions) just toast Zerglings, even with speed upgrade Very Happy

I don't think Stalker's blink is imba, but I haven't seen it used that much actually. Mass Stalkers seem to be too weak in mid/late game to justify these additional expenses.

Well, the patches of Blizzard are going the right way. They're slowly reducing the importance of hard counters (bonus damage vs certain armor types) and thus making army mix and strategy more important.
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Wed 07 Apr 2010, 19:20
You are as always correct s3r. You have seen through the weakness xD Stalkers are extremely late mid-late game and are only tactically superior early on. However the zerg's fast queen-larva ling tech can ONLY be countered so far (nobody has come up with a better meta-game strat) as rushing with zlots out of 2 gates (or 3 if your ballsy and want a win THAT bad) and teching off 1 base... unfortunately if that fails then the Z can expo twice pretty safely and pressure hard.

Look... I'm not trying to say the ideology is bad in sc2, its actually amazing... I'm just saying the balancing needs a lot of work and I'm pissed that they took out my Dragoons... Dancing Goon's is what I was good at in brood war Sad
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Wed 07 Apr 2010, 23:52
The problem with Starcraft 2 is that everybody expects a top balanced game like SC BW.
I have just to mention that Starcraft BW is 10 years old. Much time to balance it.
I want my Goliaths back.
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Thu 08 Apr 2010, 01:34
Found something nice on the bnet forums: http://blip.tv/file/3443584
For all SC1 fans Very Happy
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Thu 08 Apr 2010, 03:06
lol, to funny s3rius
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Thu 08 Apr 2010, 13:00
Biberkrieger84 wrote:I want my Goliaths back.
Goliaths are said to make a comeback in the Campaign, thus in the editor, thus in future custom maps :]


Some more updates, just for the heck of it:

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SC2's user interface has been sucessfully edited. Looks like you can drag around the elements to your liking. Interesting for making space for custom text, hero settings, inventory, etc.




The texture files have been understood too.

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Maybe we'll get a custom-made editor even before the real one appears Very Happy


And someone did a benchmark on Galaxy (the SC2 language, in blue), JASS (the WC3 language, in red) and Ruby (a language generally considered as rather slow, in yellow)
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Galaxy is about twice as fast as JASS is, but still very slow compared to other languages. Too bad. Still, the speed boost in SC2 will allow more complex and resource-consuming scripts to run well. And considering the number of units that may be on the map at the same time that's damn well needed.


Thanks to SC2Mapster for gathering these information from various sources.

I'm too busy actually playing the game than to bother with annoying xml editing ~~

Edit:

Remember the lava environment Blizzard already talked about?
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Well, I wouldn't wanna swim in there:
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lol s3r you son of a bitch xD that was funny actually top marks Smile by the way have you seen what happened with the lava in a joke game? A guy tried to drop, ships got taken out, lava came up, ramp was blocked, so funny xD





EDIT (Admin): You might better mind your language , thanks
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Sat 10 Apr 2010, 15:54
Eulogy wrote:lol s3r you son of a bitch xD that was funny actually top marks Smile by the way have you seen what happened with the lava in a joke game? A guy tried to drop, ships got taken out, lava came up, ramp was blocked, so funny xD





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Lol, since when do we have language control on our liberal forums? Very Happy
Also, since when do you swear like that Omni? The military really spoiled you Razz

Anyway, I've been able to play a couple of dozen SC2 games online
( THANKS A LOT TO ASGARD AND DELANOV FOR BORROWING ME AND WOLF THEIR BETA KEYS Very Happy )
and althought there are certain imbalances and rough edges it plays really well. There's quite a bunch of good players already and some of the better games already reach SC1 Korean pro-gaming quality.
I see a bright future ahead.
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Sat 10 Apr 2010, 17:49
I played a few games....damn I got owned, and seriously...whats wrong with the music, its just so...missplaced^^.
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Sat 10 Apr 2010, 18:41
lol I dunno s3r, never been a problem before hahaha as long as it's not flame I'm going to investigate! rofl anyway yeah sure bright future but absolutely shitty, er horrible present lol
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Sat 10 Apr 2010, 19:15
I love the Terran music theme. I don't really know about the others. Protoss is ok. Zerg, no idea.

In fact I love it so much that I'm gonna buy the Collector's Edition.
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Sun 11 Apr 2010, 13:11
Something specially for you, Omneeey.

Witness the awesomeness of blink Very Happy
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Sun 11 Apr 2010, 16:46
Lol this guy must be a freak, having so much bf control needs some accurated mouse-controling o_O
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Mon 12 Apr 2010, 00:12
actually that micro is about as hard as microing PvP goons on original, but see s3rius? lol thank you xD I always like watching Idra lose, the punk lol
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I would like to point out that delanov and Asgard (ergo chaos_wolf and me) are just rocking the SC2 Silver leagues Very Happy
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Wed 14 Apr 2010, 21:47
s3rius wrote:StarCraft 2 release !! - Page 4 Screen36

I would like to point out that delanov and Asgard (ergo chaos_wolf and me) are just rocking the SC2 Silver leagues Very Happy

Haha lol, maybe they assume me to cheat,too, when I start to use the account again xD
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Wed 14 Apr 2010, 22:27
Woot gogo s3rius Very Happy I'll have to find somebody to play with me to do that Sad too bad I'm more of a solo type player >.<
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Wed 14 Apr 2010, 23:08
Yea, I like 2on2s just because I have a team mate that I can coordinate attacks etc. But I think I'd perform better in 1v1s.

The majority of games I lost were because my team mate got bum rushed, base dropped or in any other way defeated^^" It rarely happens that I get defeated by some cheese.
More than once I was facing a 2v1 and I even won a couple of these games Very Happy
But I'm training and conditioning chaos_wolf to not make the same mistakes as my random team partners.

That might sound like self-gratifification just now, but trust me - that's exactly what it is Very Happy
It's a fukken awesome feeling to be owning double Zerg with superior micro, macro, tactics and a crapload of dropships. zombie

First nuke them till they glow, then shoot 'em in the dark!
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Thu 15 Apr 2010, 05:56
Lmao I like that saying... anyway yeah I know how awesome it feels to win 2v1, just dont watch the reps cause when you see their base macro it makes you feel like you didnt acomplish as much even though in the middle of the game it felt intense xD
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